Ready for Intel’s New R0 9th Generation ‘Coffee Lake’ CPUs? BIOS Updates Now Available From the Big Four

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• PeachNCream - Friday, April 5, 2019 - link

  Intel's CPU shortage isn't so much an increased demand issue as it is a production problem. The increased core count in Intel processors that was a response to AMD's Zen means that more wafer is needed per product sold and that means fewer products out the door as production capacity has not yet increased to cope with the shortfall.
  
  As for the health of the market, I'm not saying its a dead animal, but decline is something lots of companies are worried about since phones are replacing computers as the world's primary computing device. It shows in the sales numbers and will continue to do so. No, PCs won't go away entirely, but desktops in particular are the hardest hit by the transition to more mobile systems. DIY gaming boxes have held up relatively well (though not for much longer as companies try to increase per sale margins by driving up component prices without offering more than RGB LEDs as a justification) and the assortment of small form factor machines seem to be doing okay. Laptops are probably fine for a bit as well, but budget DIY desktops are basically a dead horse at this point and that rot is spreading up the pricing stack and outward to OEM built systems as well.

• Qasar - Saturday, April 6, 2019 - link

  maybe.. but most of the people i know.. use a desktop for games and internet more then their phones... but it could also be cause of the games they play too... none are available on a phone, and a notebook.. just wont cut it unless they spend more then a desktop would....
  
  as for intel and their cpu's... do they REALLY need to have a product stack of FORTY cpu's??? maybe if they would cut down on that. that would free up production to make the ones they need... either way.. looks like my next upgrade will be AMD based.... less confusing...

• PeachNCream - Monday, April 8, 2019 - link

  The prospect of spending more for the same or less compute power has always been one of the costs of playing games on a laptop instead of a desktop. The price buys portability so while looking at a laptop exclusively from a power-vs-price perspective makes sense in some cases, many consumers incorporate more than that single factor in their purchase. If they didn't, gaming laptops wouldn't be a thing like they are now.
  
  Intel's huge product stack has a lot to do with harvesting partly faulty chips at their maximum possible value so it makes a certain amount of sense. Why sell a defective i7 as a much lower priced i5 when the company can instead sell for more by inventing another i7 model? It isn't a consumer-friendly thing and I agree the practice leads to considerable confusion, but it does work for the bottom line and since Intel has to answer to investors, doing so might be worth the confusion.

• Qasar - Monday, April 8, 2019 - link

  we realize that.. but when you have no intent on taking your games with you, and prefer to stay home.. there is no reason to spend that extra money on portability :-) hence.. the choice of a desktop.
  
  i figured that.. but is intel's current process that bad, that they have to harvest that many cpus, and sell them as lower skus, or crippled skus?

• bobhumplick - Friday, April 5, 2019 - link

  i dont know if it will happen with this stepping but im pretty sure they will go with igpu and igpuless models for cometlake at least. and i dont mean just turning it off like they are doing now. they will either make 2 runs, one with igpu and one without, or they will make one run and add the igpu as a seperate die.
  
  the igpu takes up more space than 2 whole cores and most people in the enthusiast market dont even use them. the next i7 will be 8 cores and it will actually be the same size or smaller than the 8700k if its still on 14nm.
  
  they might do it with this stepping as well. i doubt it but its possible. they may already have enough igpu cpus stocked up to do for awhile and can just take from that pile when they need an oem chip with igpu and then take from these piles for enthusiast chips
  
  even if they dont do it now they will with the next line of chips. its been holding intel back for awhile now

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• honoxeyo - Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - link

  Call me when Intel gets out of the "lake". :P
  
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